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In The Irishman

29 Nov

In the new movie,The Irishman, Robert DeNiro uses Errol’s name in connection to one of the following Joes. Which Joe is it? Gallo, Kennedy, Columbo, DIMaggio, Namath, or Stalin? What did DeNiro say about this Joe?

— Gentleman Tim

 

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  1. shangheinz

    November 30, 2019 at 8:04 pm

    I am just about able to give you an answer, Congressman Tim, since I finished watching “The Irishman” a moment ago. The good fella you are looking for is Crazy Joe Gallo.
    They don’t make movies like em anymore. At least not in Hollywood. The latest of Scorsese is a dialogue driven alternative history lesson. Flynn is in, if only for a shout out. Maybe after the biopic about Hedy Lamarr starring Gael Gadot, Errol should be ripe for the cinematograhic call up.

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    • Gentleman Tim

      December 1, 2019 at 1:19 pm

      Pardon the gallo humor, but you, you … you are good, you are very good, hitmanheinz. That was a very difficult hit to make.

      Thanks 2 for the heads up on the Hedy flick headed our way! That could/should be a great one/what a life she lived!

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  2. rswilltell

    December 2, 2019 at 3:26 pm

    The new film The Irishman is generating controversy on it’s accuracy. Based on the popular best-seller non-fiction book I Hear You Paint Houses by Charles Brandt, some Hoffa crime experts say the book and the film are baloney and nothing more. One crime expert confronted Robert DeNiro that the film’s premise was not only phony but ridicules. DeNiro’s answer was “We’re telling our version of the story.” Artistic license? Time will tell. Ralph Schiller

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  3. shangheinz

    December 2, 2019 at 8:32 pm

    Why would Frank Sheeran admit to Crazy Joe’s hit? Braggin’ rights!? I don’t think so. Joe was top of the Mob after his prison release and in his mind untouchable. A quiet facilitator stood a better chance to succeed where the muy macho mobsters had failed various times before. “I hear you paint houses.” “I paint pavements, too.” youtu.be/5O2W134MsTo…

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    • Gentleman Tim

      December 3, 2019 at 12:29 am

      Thank you for the excellent video, scungilliheinz – very informative. Looks like we were writing replies to Ralph at the same time.

      The long and I previously thought undisputed description of Joey G’s murderer was that of a short, pudgy Italian. Being that it was Little Italy (which was still quite full of Italianios in those days, not so now) I believe Sheeran, especially being 6’4” tall, would have been especially remembered well by witnesses. Can’t say for sure, though, but all of the contemporaneous witness descriptions (I think) were of one (or more) short(er) Italians.

      As shown in the image below, DeNiro had to wear extreme platform shoes to even approach Sheeran’s height. (I have no idea what Pacino is doing with his feet!)

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  4. Gentleman Tim

    December 2, 2019 at 8:46 pm

    If you aska me, Ralph, I thinka the Irishman spouted lotza spazzatora to make lotza deniro. No doubt he a painted houses, but not a likely Crazy Joe’s …

    I saw the movie and the hit on Gallo certainly does not comport with facts widely reported contemporaneous to the shooting, and following the initial police investigation(s).

    Gallo’s hit was almost certainly in response to the belief that he orchestrated the assassination of Joe Columbo, and flagrantly disrespected Carlo Gambino, as well. They didn’t call him “Crazy” Joe for nothing.

    My Uncle Tom (Reid) was the highest ranking uniformed policeman in the NYPD at the time of the Colombo shooting and knew all these New York family mobsters very well, having directed many anti-Mafia operations for the NYPD in those wild days. Because he spoke and understood Italian/Sicilian fluently, he was often personally involved in surveillance. In fact, he was at the Colombus Day event when Colombo was shot, as reported in the next day’s New York Times article linked below. (What’s not reported is that he lost hearing in one ear from one of the assassination gunshots.)

    My Uncle Tom certainly did not tell me everything he knew about the Gallo hit, but the hit depicted in The Irishman at Umberto’s does not ring true from what I did hear. Nor does it comport from what I’ve seen and heard during my own visits to the original Umberto’s. As one example, in the movie there’s no showing of the hit gun being concealed earlier in the day in the downstairs men’s bathroom.

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    Quoting the Times:

    “One of the policemen near Colombo was Deputy Chief Inspector Thomas Reid, who said he heard “two shots—maybe three,” and along with other policemen pounced on “a black man with a gun.”

    “It was all over in a matter of seconds,” Inspector Reid said. “I saw a hand sticking out with a gun and I jumped for the gun.”

    “A shot went off,” Inspector Reid said, “we were holding on to his hand—I don’t know who shot the black man.”

    …To this day, neither the Colombo hit nor the Gallo hit have been officially reported as solved.

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  5. shangheinz

    December 4, 2019 at 2:49 pm

    www.theerrolflynnblog.com…

    Bela and Boris would be proud of Al and Bob. Those plateau shoes promise great things for future projects, Irishman Tim. How about “Frankensteen and Count Dagula”? Thanks for the inside scoop from your uncle`s perspective. Fascinating to say the least.

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