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Kevin-Kline

— Inga

 
 

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  1. Lollie

    August 25, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    Yes I think he looks pretty good.It goes without saying that no one would be anywhere near close to Errol’s looks,but I think Kevin Kline is a good choice to play him.I am really looking forward to seeing this movie.Thanks for posting that Inga. :)

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    • Rachel

      September 29, 2013 at 1:49 am

      I couldn’t agree more, Lollie! Looking at the above photo, it’s astounding to me how much Kevin Kline resembles Errol…it’s almost eerie. Great job to the makeup artists! But then I always felt Kevin would be the best choice to portray 1950s Errol…I really couldn’t see any other actor doing it. I’m really looking forward to seeing this film! :-)

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  2. shangheinz

    August 25, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    Here`s another striking resemblance foto: www.nytimes.com…
    Anyone who has seen Kevin Kline`s performance in his Cole Porter biopic knows what a treat “The last of Robin Hood” will be. I can`t wait!

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  3. Robzak

    August 25, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    I think the picture is huge!

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  4. Tina

    August 25, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    Hi Inga;
    I think it is ingenious to produce such likeness and this movie most likely will be a mega one. I just hope and sincerely so, that it is done in good taste!!!

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    • Inga

      August 27, 2013 at 5:30 pm

      Is it possible that you cannot see the picture in my post (as I can’t right now)? Because originally, it was there and even I could see it!

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  5. timerider

    August 25, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    As Billy Crystal has said, “MAKEUP”! LOL. Kevin is fading fast but when he was young he was a Flynn twin!
    I’m hoping this will be a truthful statement of Errol’s life.

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  6. ILIKEFLYNN

    August 26, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    While the picture is semi-interesting, let us remember that while the film is “based on a true story”, it is still a movie and “any resemblance to any any one living or dead is merely coincidental.”
    By the way I just saw “the real last of Robin Hood”, the film, “Assault of the Rebel Girls!” I could see how it could make the bottom half of a double feature. Still interesting to watch Flynn and his “jailbait” paramour together.–A. R.

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  7. Tina

    August 26, 2013 at 11:41 pm

    In the article of Inga’s post the ending is as follows:

    The Last of Robin Hood is a story about the desire for fame and the price it exacts.

    Yes, Beverly wanted fame but more so her mother. She was more the pawn in her mother’s desire.

    Yeah – and the price it exacts!

    Errol knew that his time was running out and my feeling is that he most likely entertained a thought similar to:
    ” I paid the price of being famous and was punished for it and although acquitted, the aftermath destroyed my life. Now it is my right to enjoy what I already paid for so dearly, there is nothing left.”

    Anybody any thoughts?

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    • ILIKEFLYNN

      August 27, 2013 at 2:33 am

      I am sure Mr. Flynn justified his actions any way he pleased. Of course that does not change nor justify his actions, but it tells us that just like any one else, he was only human after all! I’m reminded of the scene in “My Favorite Year.” where Alan Swan (Peter O’Toole) is sitting at the dinner table with Benjy’s family and he talks about how he is accused of things he’s never done, but how he “gets away with murder in other areas”. He then talks about how “it all evens out in the end.” To which Benjy’s mom, (played excellently by Lainie Kazan) asks him, “Does it Swanny?”
      We can admire Errol Flynn, but let us not lose sight of the fact that in his personal relationships he did do some pretty mean stuff!
      To use a line that was used in “My Favorite Year”, but was actually borrowed from David Niven, “You could always count on Flynn; he always let you down!”–A. R.

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      • David DeWitt

        August 27, 2013 at 8:02 pm

        Niv later said he was being flippant when he said this of Errol of whom he was a staunch defender of the Higham bullshit …

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      • David DeWitt

        August 27, 2013 at 8:10 pm

        And had some mean stuff done to him, don’t forget! He was also a generous man, giving gifts to people, and witing kind words about them. He carried his pals in the movie business, making sure they were working, and his wives all had good things to say of him with a few complaints, yes … So its not at all like he was mean to a lot of people – he was often the target of some agendas that were less than kindly, and he wasn’t averse to using his fists when needed in a bar but I have never heard that he beat his wives or the like, for example, though being an alcoholic makes of some people an entirely different personality when drunk. Errol, I think, ay have tended to have fun and become somewhat melancholy, I expect …

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      • Tina

        August 27, 2013 at 10:19 pm

        Hi A.R.!
        Just read your post!
        Wow – you are quite stern in your remarks!
        A.R. it was David Niven himself who explained his quote and that it was never meant as an insult.
        Things are so easily taken out of context when it comes to Errol!
        Somehow it seems to me, correct me if I am wrong, that from the time of the trial it was o.k. to through bricks at Errol. He seem to be much, much more on the receiving end than he dishing it out.

        Errol was actually a very gentle person and retaliated only when attacked. It is well established that he gave a helping hand to many people – like the despicable Bruce Cabot. Errol always was very well mannered, could hold his liquor and always was a gentleman even under the influence.

        Just for curiosity and please don’t take it the wrong way, what do you base your knowledge on that Errol did mean things to people?
        I would love to hear your thoughts but please none of the stories that he forced himself onto women.
        I never will believe it from ANYBODY – never ever!

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  8. ILIKEFLYNN

    August 27, 2013 at 11:09 pm

    As I stated before, Errol was human and had his faults. I guess you don’t think cheating on one’s wife is mean? How about leaving one”s wife of seven years and one’s small four year old daughter for an under age (15 year old)) girl is not mean?
    I am an Errol Flynn fan and remain so. I understand very well that Niven spoke in jest, yet I know in some ways Errol did let people down. In his book on Errol and Sean, Meyer tells of the times Errol had made some promise to Sean only to disappoint him. This is not to say he did not love his children, but he some times made promises he did not keep.
    But then again I never said he was an evil man. He was a complex man and I for one will be on line to see “The Last of Robin Hood”.–A. R.

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    • Tina

      August 28, 2013 at 4:41 am

      Hi A.R.!
      You are right Errol was human – why wouldn’t he be? He was human like all of us with all our faults and all of our compassion, sympathy and kindheartedness.
      I don’t think he cheated on his wife but like a totally self-disillusioned person he just walked out because he knew he impaired Pat’s carrier. He knew the dawn was upon him and after all he left everything he owned to Pat.. He did not left Pat because of Beverly, she came a little later when filming “Too Much Too Soon.”
      Only Errol and Pat will know what the real reason was in this action.
      Please don’t forget that Errol was somewhat mentally impaired in the last two years or so of his life with drug abuse and alcohol being the cause.
      If Errol was cruel to anybody it was mostly to himself!

      Mental problems caused by drugs and alcohol could make one forgetful about promises and maybe that was the case if so?
      He tried very hard to be a good father to the best of his ability he had left when the two women in his life took the children away from him and divorced him, not the other way around. He was the man out in the cold!
      There are many scenarios in all these events, but one thing is sure Errol was kicked in the teeth pretty badly..
      There are always more sides to a the story. Why is a father always on the short end of the stick?
      Let’s face it, Nora had an affair with Dick Haymes while married to Errol and married Dick 7 days after the divorce. Wow!
      Furthermore, MWWW would have never been published if it wouldn’t have been for his fabulous ghost writer. As I said before, the last two years which included Beverly were years of mental impairment and the last grasping of life before it is all over.
      Love to hear your thoughts!

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      • Inga

        August 28, 2013 at 6:36 am

        I think that Errol did cheat on all his wives – and not only once. His affairs during his marriages are well documented, and even though the women may have forced themselves upon him, he could always have said “no, I’m married”. But he didn’t, and cheating in marriage, to me, is a very mean thing. This does not diminish Errol’s other qualities, but it also should not be ignored. It is also well known that Errol played pranks on people, like the very bad one on David Niven where he left him paddling in the ocean with sharks. To sum up: like every human being, Mr Flynn had good and bad sides, and we should not try to “excuse” the bad sides – they were there, a part of him – which does not make him a bad person. :-)

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      • Lollie

        August 28, 2013 at 11:35 am

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        If Errol was cruel to anybody it was mostly to himself!
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        I think that would be a very true statement.Like everyone has said,Errol was only human,but I think his good qualitities would have far outweighed his bad.I am sure when he was married that he would have tried very hard to be faithful,but he seemed to be a man who just couldn’t be married and monogamous,I think his wives all knew that even before they married him,but perhaps just hoped for the best & hoped he could change with them,or just loved him enough to try and see past that,I don’t know.I don’t think he was at all a bad person,I think he tried and struggled very hard with lots of things.But pretty much everyone who knew him seemed to absolutely adore him,his kids,his wives and friends.His fans to this day adore him too,myself included.Plus a man who loves his dogs as much as Errol did is definitely a very good thing. :)

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        • Tina

          August 28, 2013 at 3:53 pm

          Hi Lollie:
          Thank you very much – you said it most beautifully!

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          • Lollie

            August 30, 2013 at 11:09 am

            Thank you Tina,and right back at you. :) I like reading yours & everyone’s thoughts,it has been a great thread.I am really looking forward to the movie too.

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  9. ILIKEFLYNN

    August 28, 2013 at 11:15 pm

    Tina! I think Inga said it best!
    But I agree with you to a certain extent! Despite any failings Mr. Flynn may have had in real life, it is his films we will always remember!

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    • Tina

      August 29, 2013 at 12:35 am

      Hi A.R.!
      It was a good enjoyable discussion! We should do it again with another subject!

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      • ILIKEFLYNN

        August 29, 2013 at 2:48 am

        Hi, Tina! I agree! Maybe when the movie comes out we can all get a chance to see it and discuss it.–A. R.

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        • Tim

          September 2, 2013 at 1:11 am

          I bet we will!

          The cast looks strong, but the filmmaking history of Glatzer & Westmoreland portends potential trouble. They certainly are far from the best choice for making a film about the great Errol Flynn!!!

          Hopefully Kline will keep things respectable.

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          • Robzak

            September 2, 2013 at 7:59 pm

            I can assure you that Kline kept things quite respectable in his portrayal.

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            • Tim

              September 3, 2013 at 8:30 am

              Thanks for that assurance, Robert. I trust that the tremendously talented Kevin Kline – who has benefited so extensively in his life and career from comparisons to Errol – will do all he can to make this film worthy. My concern and belief is that this movie should have equally suited, qualified and esteemed direction. Unfortunately, it does not.

              Exhibit A: the IMDb resume of Wash Westmoreland. Please note that the overwhelming majority of his movies are gay pornography:

              Wash Westmoreland – IMDb
              www.imdb.com…

              The telling of Errol’s last days on Earth deserves the very best direction available. Doesn’t appear to me that Wash Westmoreland, nor his partner, Richard Glatzer, are anywhere near the best available. Let’s hope Kevin can help save the film from sinking.

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              • Robzak

                September 4, 2013 at 2:42 am

                The directors have done a good and measured job on the film, irrespective of their somewhat unusual background. Everyone involved rose to the occasion needed to present the narrative in as accurate and respectful a manner possible, and I did what I could to assist in that accuracy.

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                • Tim

                  September 4, 2013 at 6:46 am

                  So good to hear. Sounds promising that the great concerns and pressure of Flynn family, fans & scholars – including yourself Robert – have been at least been somewhat heard & heeded. Even so, imagine how much better this film would have been in the hands of a director & screenwriter with more apropos talent and experience. Call me old-fashioned, but I personally do not believe the writer and director behind the “somewhat unusual” “Dr. Jerkoff & Mr. Hard” and numerous other such pornographic productions is the right man for this important account of the great Errol Flynn’s life & death.

                  I hope all the good people directly and indirectly involved in trying to make this a worthy film have succeeded.

                  … All the film’s publicity shots being far too crude, I couldn’t attach any images from “Dr. J & Mr. H” visually evidencing the inappropriate background and experience cited above.

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                  • Robzak

                    September 4, 2013 at 4:59 pm

                    I agree with you Tim, about possibly preferring someone else at the helm of this project, but that’s putting the situation in reverse. There wasn’t first a project, as in olden studio days, after which a director is placed in charge. These filmmakers had the idea first to make a film on the subject and then moved forward with that idea until it saw fruition. All those who have had any reservations about how this part of the Flynn story should be presented have all had the same opportunity to do their own film on it. No one has prevented that. That someone else beat them to the punch may be unfortunate but we can’t fault those who actually made it happen, simply because of their film-making history. Ironically, the last two years of Errol’s life is quite the “adult” storyline, unlike the story “book” style of his halcyon years. It may well be that a more “appropriate” director might handle the subject in a less-than-realistic manner, at least as “inappropriately” as those who did handle it. However, it’s a bit unfair to a priori assume that this film could be done “much better” before having even seen it. Having worked closely with the filmmakers, prop and costumers, and Kline from the very start, with the very purpose of assuring they portray the people and storyline accurately, I only ask you to see it first before damning it, and critique it on its own merits rather than through the curriculum vitae of the filmmakers’ past work.

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                    • Tim

                      September 4, 2013 at 7:45 pm

                      We can all only do what we can, how we can, Robert. Not everyone is in the position to produce or direct a movie, of course. But all of us can participate meaningfully in other ways. Speaking up and letting concerns be heard ahead of time is one such way – and an often very effective way. Your having been there to help keep things honest and on track is especially great! Thank you!!!

                      Though I do believe one’s prior work significantly reflects and informs one’s future work, we can all move in new and better directions, redeeming ourselves in the process. I hope that’s the case with this film. And, if it is, I will be at the head of the line praising the film. If it is tarnished by any inappropriate content or agenda, however, I will indeed condemn it. I did the same thing when Charles Pigham – with his (also) scandalous resume – launched his deplorable agenda-driven attack on Flynn. The histories of the current writers/directors compel very careful scrutiny. Left unchecked, they may well have worked Truman Capote’s nonsense into the story. That would have been particularly cold-blooded.

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  10. timerider

    September 7, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    Wheeew! So many comments! As I said Kevin has been resurrected as a much younger man, Hollywood makeup magic! As for Errol Leslie, he had to beat the women off with a baseball bat for cryin out loud! My Dad was the same. Nora, I read, had said that if he was to fool around he had better not bring anything home. His wives after Lilli were not blind. Lilli however was insanely jealous not only of the women but the notoriety that out shined her own. Errol’s dark side , now that’s a story for another thread! LOL!

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  11. Tina

    September 12, 2013 at 6:40 pm

    Hi Everybody!
    Did anyone of our Authors see the movie?
    Robert did you?

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