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We Welcome New Author Russ… to The Errol Flynn Blog!

06 Oct

We welcome New Author Russ to the blog and look forward to his comments and thoughts!

— David DeWitt

 

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Anonymous

Hello, Russ, and welcome! Hope you have a great time here.
Best,
Robert

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Anonymous

Hello Russ, Welcome!

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Anonymous

Thanks for the warm welcome folks! Very happy to have found this place where I can share my enthusiasm and interest in our friend Errol (who would be 100 years old next year!).
Here's an early photo of Flynn (hosted on my Image Shack account btw)

Russ

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Anonymous

Thanks for the rare and fascinating pic, Russ; but I must say that this is, hands-down, the worst photo of Flynn I've ever seen! Does anyone else here agree?
Robert

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Anonymous

I have seen this pic before. It is indeed one of the worst pics of young Flynn I have ever seen. Bad teeth, bad hair, and even his clothes don't seem to fit! I have seen the fellow he is in the photo with before, too – can't think of his name but he apparently had his picture taken with celebrities and near celebrities – or just ordinary people – for the hell of it? Anyway, this is indeed an butt ugly photo and a rare one!

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Anonymous

That's not Errol! It's his second cousin, Melvin Flynn, from Brisbane. (Note: do we have to HAVE this horrible pic on the blog?)

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Anonymous

Heh. Well, I'd like to know more about Melvin Flynn and if the photo above really is of him or Errol. If you truly want me to remove the photo I will, or David can.
Cheers,
Russ

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Anonymous

Welcome, Russ! Interesting photo. Obviously, Errol had his teeth fixed after this was taken. That's something I never knew. The early boyhood pictures that were at Flynn's house while I lived there didn't portray these gaps between his front upper teeth. Best, Steve

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Anonymous

Taking this a bit further, the source is Flickr. The caption is: Le photographe Willy Michel (à droite) et Errol Flynn (1909-1959), acteur de cinéma (Captain Blood, The adventures of Robin Hood, They died with their boots on…). Marié à Lily Damita We learn more about the photographer, Willy Michel on this page: tinyurl.com… Famous French Film Faces in the Photomaton June 26, 2008 We continue Photomaton Week here at Photobooth.net… (don’t worry, it’s unofficial, you didn’t miss the announcement) with a spectacular trove of French photographic history. Thanks to a Google Alert pointing out a post on Dinosaurs and… Read more »

Anonymous

Thanks for the welcome, Steve!
After doing research, I'm 100% certain it is a photo of a young Errol, the teeth he was born with and all! =)
Here's another rare photo, that I haven't seen elsewhere, showing a much more recognizable Flynn, for you Steve, taken in '36 at the Hollywood Cricket Club:

Russ

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Anonymous

I have visited Stanley Park in Vancouver, B.C. where the pic of the Hollywood Cricket Club was taken. The building behind them is still there but is part of an oval racetrack that is immediatly behind them going through an archway that is not visible in this photo. Beyond the oval track are the only two soccer fields and an original Clubhouse that was closed when I was there but was said to have a pic of Flynn on the wall somewhere. Beyond the soccer fields you can see the bay, and the activity in the harbor of Vancouver. Flynn… Read more »

Anonymous

Well, bad as it is I have to agree it is Errol. As for the teeth being fixed, I believe there is a reference to this in a vague sort of way in his book, My Wicked, Wicked Ways wherein he talks about being at lunch with a girl and out fell his “chopper.” A cap, I suspect as many of the stars back then had their teeth capped. Interesting photo. Patti

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Anonymous

I vote we keep the photo up, so as not to seem like an idealistic group of teeny-bopper fans! As for his facial flaws, I have studied that face long and hard over the decades (probably my artist's vice) and noticed his teeth progressively improving over time. In “Captain Blood” he still had a problem with one incisor, continuing through at least “The Adventures Of Robin Hood”. By the early to mid forties all had been taken care of, resulting in a perfect and respectable set of Hollywood smilers. I've also noticed that he had two suspicious facial moles that… Read more »

Anonymous

Wow….and I thought I was obsessed.
Haven't noticed the mole between the eyebrows, but definitely noticed the mole under his left eye…. whoever removed it “scooped” it out. The pit is noticeable in all later pics.
I get the impression Errol didn't have any problem with such modifications….but I wonder how much was his own concern
as opposed to those foisted upon him by the opinions of others.
Russ

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Anonymous

Based on subtle statements of Errol's, I've always had the impression he didn't give a damn about his looks, other than the success they afforded him. I think we all appreciated more than he his combination of classic beauty balanced by solid masculinity of looks, a one-two punch you rarely find in male actors; it's usually a case of one or the other.
Robert

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Anonymous

Right you are Patti! Actually, having talked to someone very close to him about this, he only had his two front teeth capped. All the rest were quite straight. But I also heard recently from a good authority that later in his life, in the fifties, he wore dentures – just like Gable. Melvin Flynn, for the record, was about the same age as Errol, bore a passing resemblance to him, was only 5'5″, and was a complete twit. When they were children Errol give him the nickname “Pansy.” His favorite preoccupation was going around the world impersonating his famous… Read more »

Anonymous

Robert, like you, I always noticed the two moles on his face. especially the one between his eyes. It is extremely noticeable in the close-up of him in the Robin Hood banquet scene when he leans forward and tells Prince John what he's going to do to oppose him (“I'll organize a revolt . . . “). A similar thing was true of Charlton Heston. For much of his film career he had a very large mole on his right nostril which is now more obvious than ever with HDTV and Blu-Ray. In some close-ups in El Cid, for instance,… Read more »

Anonymous

Hallo, Chums! If you notice, some of the comments have at least three Re, Re, Re's in them and after a time you will gain six or eight of these “Re” monikers on your posts – forgive me (please!) but they drive me nuts! If you go up to the top of the page and hit “Post a comment” instead of Reply, you eliminate the extended Re's in your comments. I do not for the life of me know why the software provides a Reply link that creates these annoying Re's but they do! Now, just because I mention this… Read more »

Anonymous

Well the Re Re Re's designate the flow of a thread… In my experience some people like that and some don't. Personally I like it.
Russ

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Anonymous

David, I think we may be certifiable!
R

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Anonymous

Hallo, Chums! As I say, the Re, Re, Re thing is my personal pet peave and I was wondering if I was alone, or not. Carry on, as you may choose! Great comments going back and forth, by the way!

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Anonymous

Here's the latest research tidbit: In analyzing this photo for The Chronology, I made the quite amazing discovery that this is not Flynn pre-Hollywood, but, in fact, 1937 in Paris on his way to the Spanish Civil War front! In fact, the photos of Lili in Willy Michel's booth are from the same day, March 24, 1937 ( ) that Michel took those of Flynn. In the Fegerl book, one can compare the Flynn/Damita/Paris photos with these and see that they are wearing the same outfits, including her leopard skin coat and his over-sized coat. So, the the matinee idol… Read more »

Anonymous

Hi Robert;
You are right this picture is sure something to wish for!
I am sure he was just fooling around like a kid!
Quite possible his first time in Europe and enjoying himself thoroughly, he looks it. He must have been ecstatic to go on an adventure again, but never thought for a minute that this picture would be still around 74 years later.
Who is Willy Michel and his booth – in Paris?

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Anonymous

I'd like to know what was just said between them – Errol has the goofiest expression on his face!

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Anonymous

Wish for??
This was Flynn's third time in Europe, after living in England from 1921-24 and visiting his mother and sister in the South of France, and again when passing through to England on his way from the South Pacific with Hermann Erben.

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Anonymous

I happen to know. But I'm not saying.

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Anonymous

Hi Robert;
To wish for? I meant it in a mocking way!
I should have said Paris, which I meant – not Europe – silly me.
I know he was in England at school and later to start his acting carrier.
When did he visited his mother and sister in the South of France?
I don't know that.

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Anonymous

Keeping secrets – ok – I will read it in your book – right!
I hope it is ready soon!

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Anonymous

Even Paris: this was his third time. He was in France to visit his family in 1924, and he first met Lili there in June of 1933.

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Anonymous

That story I do not believe at all, he never met Lili in Paris, that is somebodies figment of their imagination! Yeah, it just happened that Lili was standing on the corner and he picked her up with his tattered suitcase under his arm – right! Hahaha – i am really laughing! She was a star and he was an ordinary person then – one does not meet movie stars out of the blue! So he just happens to meet a movie star arriving in Paris with no money in his pocket and knowing nobody in town – how??? That… Read more »

Anonymous

I've wanted to ask the “mole question” for a while but felt like it was too crazy – now I see that it has been discussed long before. Robert, have you got any idea when the one between his eyebrows was removed? I could trace it as far as “Virginia City”? But then I found that the lines between his eyebrows were slowly deepening, so I thought it might be due to this fact that the mole is not discernible any more??? Confusion…

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Anonymous

Am I the only one again who is not able to see the photo in your comment, neither in i-explorer nor mozilla??

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Anonymous

That was my fault, I'm sorry to say. I hit “post” before cleaning up the text. Try this:

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Anonymous

Hmmmm……..David?!
Lili Damita

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Anonymous

You may not believe it but it is likely true, considering it was verified by Lili herself.
Flynn traveled with a Mr. Jesperson from Marseilles to Paris, before heading off to Belfast to visit his family. He and Lili also met backstage in London in February of '34 when she was headlining the play, “Here's How”.
When they next crossed paths on the SS Paris, it was for the third time.

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Anonymous

Just these original three:
Errol Flynn
Hard to believe that when we'd next see Flynn on screen, it would be in “Perfect Specimen”!

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Anonymous

ah, I found it, Russ posted the link before! Stupid me. Now about that mole question above…

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Anonymous

thanks… under mozilla, I could finally right clikc on the first image and then got redirected to flickr. Are there also some others of Flynn from this photomaton?

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Anonymous

Like when you knew the secret about the Sirocco Club and would not tell?

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Anonymous

I don't know what problem everybody is having here with Errol's looks? Really… It's not such a bad photo after all. ???

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Anonymous

Hi Inga;
I read your post and examined some of my early pictures of Errol, but I can't see any moles. What picture do you have that one could see the moles between the eyebrows and on the left cheek below the eye?
I have one where you could see a very, very tiny skin eruption under the eye – left side, which I would not call a mole, it is the color picture I posted when we discussed his hair and beard color!
Could you post a picture to see these two moles?
All the best,
Tina

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Anonymous

You have the extra re's because you are just replying to that person's comment. Otherwise your comment won't make much sense. This is such an interesting page now–Russ will go down in history as the longest welcome page! Re Re Re Re Russ!!

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Anonymous

Welcome Russ. You are off to a great start!

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Anonymous

Russ, my family and friends all think I am obsessed with EF!

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Anonymous

Hi Robert; As you say – it is likely true! Verified by Lili herself? When and where? Errol traveled with a Mr. Jesperson from Marseilles to Paris? Where is that written? He and Lili also met backstage in London in February of '34? Where can I look that up? Why would Errol describe their first meeting on the SS Paris in such details and his feelings about it i.e. it took me four days to find enough courage to approach her and ask her for a dance? Sorry my dear, you know I take just about everything you say for… Read more »

Anonymous

He does not look his attractive self, that's for sure. He does look goofy, maybe he was trying to clown around. Didn't his teeth look that way on the stairs of the Queen Mary? I vote to keep it as it documents his development. Terrible side view of the man with him as well. An ugly snapshot for sure. Speaking of moles, Sarah Jessica Parker had a serious looking one on her chin that is finally missing. HD and Blue Ray really show every line and detail and pit. (David: I took out the extra re's just for you :)!)… Read more »

Anonymous

Wow, looking at the three pictures together the one above is the worst! I think EF looks adorable in the third picture–all of his best features appear except for his hair and of course those terrible teeth.

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Anonymous

Inga, I agree. After I viewed the three and then went back up to the post it isn't that horrible. Just a shock at first and now I “see” Errol when I view it.

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Anonymous

Thanks, Kathleen. It's just that his hair is a bit bizarre. but he does not look sooooo very bad after all.

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Anonymous

Tina, the problem with these moles is that you have problems finding them on PICTURES as they were mostly manipulated afterwards. I first noticed the one between his eyebrows while watching Robin Hood – as did others too, they discussed it above. I took a screen capture for you, next time you watch it, you will notice it all over: As for the ones below his eye, there are only two pictures I could find – again, the other studio portraits must have been manipulated: See them? In the picture on the right, there is also a hint of the… Read more »