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Errol Flynn by John Decker

30 Aug

Here he is in all his wonderful might!


The picture is located at the Errol Flynn estate in Jamaica.
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People like and dislike this painting – BUT – one fact remains this painting captures to perfection Errol's Mona Lisa “non-smiling” captivating SMILE.
His eyes projecting thought and feelings combined with his unusual facial expression of tenderness are communicated to perfection in this painting.
The painting maybe should be called “The Seductive Smile” or “The Melting Process” 

There are two photographs in which he displays this very smile! (See below)
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Errol with his picture at the fireplace in his living room!

And here are the two photo captions of “The Seductive Smile”

It was the melting process!

— Tina

 

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Anonymous

His wonderful might, yes–the painting's, no. In fact, Decker did nothing but paint from an existing photo of Flynn, which “Mona Lisa” smile was already in the photo.

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Anonymous

Could you possibly – please – post the photo which was used? Thanks!

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Anonymous

This image or video has been moved or deleted, says my stupid computer…? I cannot even reply to your post directly…

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Anonymous

I like the painting that John Decker did of Errol. I like that the painting was in Jaimaica over his fireplace. It should definitely be called” The Melting Process”. That painting would make me melt by looking at it!!!!

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Anonymous

I'll try again. The method for uploading photos is frustrating!

Decker made the shirt black which was easier to paint and would reduce the likelihood of anyone making the connection with the source photo.

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Anonymous

Hi Robert; Thank you for this information, which clears up why I always wondered about your not so favorable comments about the picture and now I know why. It is most interesting to learn that John Decker painted the picture by copying an existing photograph of Errol. So it seems Errol never had to sit patiently for hours to create this painting? I therefore assume that you mean painting a picture by copying a photograph is not something of real genuine talent or value as is a painting produced via a live model or maybe out of memory of the… Read more »

Anonymous

That's why I couldn't imagine which one he took. Never would have guessed that it was this one. Thanks so much, Robert!

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Anonymous

Kind of diminishes the Decker mystique, ja?

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Anonymous

Painting from a photograph isn't in and of itself an issue, but this is something that would require me to go into much more detail than time and space would allow here. Suffice it to say, I myself have used the method often in my work especially when commissioned to paint celebrities. However, the difference is in the presentation–Decker fancied himself an “artiste” worthy of being taken seriously (which Flynn fans seem to have fallen for), something that would demand that his methods be of the highest level. They weren't. Had he simply produced the painting privately for Flynn without… Read more »

Anonymous

Hi Robert;
Man alive it is the picture!
I have to look amongst the hundreds of picture I have if I have this one. I call myself pretty observant but I missed that one for sure – that is if I have the picture.
I hope you will answer my questions in my previous post as I really would like to know what is what and I am sure I am not alone on this blog with that request.
You know, being the famous artist you are – your word would just about be gospel.

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Anonymous

yes that is so cool.

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Anonymous

when was the picture taken and the painting done of Errol?

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Anonymous

I have to admit I'm more with you, also in your criticism below – the painting never seemed a masterpiece to me, but then all the fans said, yes, it is so gorgeous and I tried to find something about it which I liked… but never really succeeded. Peer pressure, you know.

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Anonymous

Thank you very much Robert for the explanation and I do understand that the details of this subject would be much to vast to publish here – but you do give a clear and understandable synopsis of the subject, which I appreciate and which answers my question.

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Anonymous

It certainly does and more over have you read David's posting in “The Falling Rocket” post about this painting – being painted on CARDBOARD? I always thought it was an oil on canvas! I am stunt to say the least!

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Anonymous

Do you have this picture?

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Anonymous

Tina, do you mean me? Yes, I had the picture, and some more from this series. They rank in my category “Strange Tie”. Here they are:
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Anonymous

Great minds just think alike Inga!
I just wanted to do the same thing as I was looking for Robert's picture in the quest to find if I have it too. I found it and along with it several others of the same tie clue. Must have been a lengthy photo shoot!
I also have this picture as a sort of magazine cover and will post it as such!
I will post my pictures in my next post!

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Anonymous

Maybe the first picture is not – maybe the tie is different – yeah —

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Anonymous

Yes I did mean you Inga and you responded with a wow! Just what I wanted to do as I said in the other post, but the blog is down and I can't post anything! I just have to wait!

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Anonymous

As promised Inga here is my picture series. Needless to say I am differently organized with my pictures and had to find them the hard way and make a new sub-file for them, which I did.
After second thought I'll just post the ones you do not show. I have the four you show and three more.
Here they are:


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Anonymous

Tina, the first picture is not, as you said (different tie), the second is the one of Robert and the third is my first one. Take care!

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Anonymous

I was wrong, your third is another one indeed – pipe is closer to the mouth. Sorry, it's early in the morning, eyes are a bit blurred still. I guess there are many more out there – just remember how many there exist of the Flower Series!

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Anonymous

I don't see that your first is the same as my third? Could you put them side be side? Mine looks like a back-page or full inside page of a magazine. I put it with our magazine-front-pages, maybe somebody has some details?

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Yeah – I can't see straight either! I saw your post after I posted mine – yikes! I tried to do some postings last night but the blog was off line and this morning I could not remember what I wanted to post, but it will come back to my scrambled brain. Flower series is right and then there are a lot of pictures with same tie I noticed when I was looking for the Decker-Tie picture. I have the picture Robert posted but never connected it with Decker's painting – God in heaven – who would think that he… Read more »

Anonymous

Hi Robert;
Do you have the answer to EFlynnFan09 question? It sure would be great to know! Even an approx date would do.

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Anonymous

Cardboard can be stable as well, I think, it depends on its thickness… there are different types? I think the picture has a value for Flynn fans only – if it were on auction at ebay, I think it'd go for an enormous price.

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Anonymous

The second one looks nothing like me.

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Anonymous

Both were done in 1943, but research has not yet covered that year. The painting appears to have been presented to Flynn during the filming of “Uncertain Glory”, which took place in the latter part of '43. I have photos of Decker,Flynn, and Raoul Walsh standing next to the painting as it is presented, one with just Decker and Flynn, and one with Flynn alone. They will be included in the Chronology, of which I am just now completing 1938.

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Anonymous

Here it is to compare!

Now that I look at the pictures side by side I would say Decker captured Errol's sort of seductive smile (smirk), which is not quite so obvious in the photograph.
Maybe I am seeing things which are there or not?
What ever the case, one has to admit looking at these two pictures, Decker did paint Errol's portrait from this photograph.

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Anonymous

I agree Inga and it is what I said too – the painting has no value except a sentimental one, which means fans, family, friends, curio seekers, etc.etc.etc. Value like a painting of a renowned painter i.e. a museum piece it has none. If Decker would have painted the picture in oil on canvas and in a personal Decker style it would have the art value of Decker's paintings. I don't know what the value of an original Decker painting is today or even if there exist such thing. Anyway, Robert will know the answer! How about it Robert? Report… Read more »

Anonymous

If we are talking about John Decker I thought we should have some details here on the blog about him. Below is a link to his family tree and background (in German – as he was German – translates into English)
wapedia.mobi…
And Deckers' paintings – Google images – a link for interest!
www.google.com…

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Anonymous

And let's not forget how bad he smelled.

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Anonymous

You are right Robert – I read the water was black when they finally washed him by throwing him into the ocean and dragging him along until he was clean. BRRR!

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Anonymous

Thank you for the information!
Btw, you are saying you are in 1938 with the Chronicle? Seriously, I thought you are close to publishing? When do you think you will publish it? I still want to have and read it too … surely you know what I mean!

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Anonymous

1938 it is. The project has expanded to such a degree (with vast amounts of info and visuals I hadn't realized were available), and so the project is taking much longer. At the moment, it is already 100 pages and 75,000 words. But I do believe it will be well worth the wait, as the very few who have already seen the work-in-progress can attest to. Also, I have definitely decided to release it as a published book only. I will keep everyone apprised of an approaching completion–whenever that may be.

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Anonymous

Your statement – (with vast amounts of info and visuals I hadn't realized were available),
Now you really surprise me, I always thought you had every information at your feet or on your fingertips! From where is all this new material – visual and info – coming or available from? On the Internet – I don't think so! You really have my curiosity going!

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Anonymous

It comes from being given the opportunity to dig even deeper into the Warner Archives, each discovery opening up avenues to other discoveries. I may never finish at this rate!

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Anonymous

Your comment Robert has no reply button – just wanted to say “you lucky duck” and I wish you the best of luck!

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Anonymous

Oh good — thanks for letting us know. Can't wait to get my hands on a copy when it's published! I've no doubt it'll be well worth the wait. :-)

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Anonymous

thank u for answering my question, Robert. I was just so very curious as to when John Decker painted Errol's picture.

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Anonymous

Sounds as if you could make use of an assistant… :-))

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Anonymous

Tina, you were absent for too long, you missed a few things: www.theerrolflynnblog.com…

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Anonymous

Any time – any time – assistance is wonderful my dear Inga!

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Anonymous

This is true Inga and I think I will be absent again – radiation is starting Sept. 6th! I did see this post at an earlier time, can't remember when, mine is different it shows his family history from Germany. He was a friend of Errol and I think we should engulf friends of Errol in a way like – if they were good enough for Errol, they should be good enough for us. We don't need to dwell on them but mention them if appropriate or in connection with a subject as the current one is – his painting… Read more »

Anonymous

In fact, I will be looking from assistance from you all when the book is nearing completion. More on that then……..

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Anonymous

Of course, Tina! Good luck for Sept. 6th! You are up late today, I'm at work already.

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Anonymous

I know you are at work and I am still up, but I am on the way to my feathers.
My mother always used to worry about my habits when I was a child, she used to say: “Um Himmels Willen was wird nur aus Dir werden, am Abend nicht ins Bett und am Morgen nicht heraus.” You translate that one – hahaha!
I have always been the late never the early bird!

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Anonymous

Robert you have all our assistance – you just say the word!

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